You Shall Not Surely Die
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Posted by JNH at 11:18 AM 0 comments
Labels: Emergent Church, Hell, Heresy, Rob Bell, Scripture
I think that a careful reading of some of the "in vain" passages in Paul's letters does indeed make the point that many who are named saints, and who believe themselves to be converted, have been called such "emptily"--and go to Hell. Also to the point on this are those people who claim to be Christians (note the "in Your Name," stressed by word order, not once but three times), and who do many thinks that they consider works of service and witness unto Christ, and yet who perish. And of course there are the warning passages in Hebrews, and those who do not endure in Revelation, etc., etc.
Probably the easiest, most recent treatment of conversion that I would recommend is Piper's Finally Alive.
The Puritans wrote much on what they called "gospel hypocrites" (someone who understood the gospel, and thought themselves converted, but were self-deceived, and should have known so by their actions and by their attitudes toward sin and the law, among other things). I think that the best thing I ever read on this topic was The Almost Christian Discovered by Matthew Mead. There was one written about the same time by Thomas Shepard, called The Parable of the Ten Virgins (or something like that).
Pastorally, let me give you this counsel: follow the model of 1 John. It is next to impossible to differentiate between a gospel hypocrite and a struggling believer (as the Heb warning passages demonstrate). So, it is helpful that there is a letter in the New Testament that has as its stated purpose to give the believer assurance (1Jo 5:13). So point them... you know that you are converted because you love God, you love Christians, you love God's commands. And if they say, "but I fail," that is very different than saying "but I don't." The answer to "but I fail," is 1Jo 1:7-10. The answer to "but I don't love..." (any one of those three: God, believers, the law) is 1Jo 1:5-6. That's the person that you then tell to ask God to change his heart and grant him repentance, and you too must pray for such people.
The last of the three (love to law) is the most helpful test, practically, to me, although the first of them (love to God) is the strongest love. This is because I think it is easier to deceive oneself that we love God, or even that we love our brother (notice the specific examples, however, of what genuine love to the brother looks like--John won't let us off the hook so easily). However, there is many a sourpuss who thinks that the pool of acid that oozes out of his pantlegs everywhere he goes is the "love of the law." Such a person should be pressed with whether or not he has (or even desires) any fruit of the Spirit.
In addition to the three "loves" that God works in the heart of the converted, 1John refers often to the 1 great doctrine that God convinces the mind of the converted: "that the eternal Son, God Himself, has come in the flesh, died, risen, and is returning in a glorious resurrection body, and that we shall see Him face to face." Everyone that hopes thus purifies himself. So, if there is someone who doesn't love God's law, there may be a doctrinal problem: not that they don't get the "logic" of the gospel, but rather, they are not convinced of the reality of it. Those who are convinced that we are going to see the resurrected Jesus from our own resurrected flesh love the commands of God, both for the opportunity to please Him, and for their usefulness in sanctification, as we pursue glory.
So, I guess this answer isn't entirely comprehensive, but:
yes, it is a biblical reality that there are many who think themselves Christians now that will curse God forever from the flames. But if you suspect that to be the case with someone in your congregation, I would suggest starting out by trying to minister assurance to them, and allow the tests for assurance to expose them to themselves. (it is generally unhelpful to tell someone that is indistinguishable from a struggling believer: "I don't believe that you're converted." If the elders, collectively, are forced to make such a public statement at the end of a discipline process, so be it)
I hope this helps,
James
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Labels: 1John, Assurance, Church Discipline, Conversion, Gospel Hypocrites, Pastoral Theology
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Labels: Christ, Prayer, Union with Christ
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Labels: General Assembly, PCA, Presbyterianism, Presbytery
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Posted by Andrew Barnes at 11:48 AM 2 comments
Labels: Gospel, Pastoral Theology, Postmodernism, Practical Theology
But some may say, What is to be thought of men's dreaming that they are breaking God's commandments, e.g. profaning the sabbath-day, swearing, lying, &c. while really they are fast asleep, are not doing so, nor opening their mouths, &c.?
Ans.... No doubt it is sin, and will damn thee if it be not pardoned, and washed away by the blood of Christ. For, (1.) The scripture condemns it. Hence the apostle, Jude 8 speaks of filthy dreams that defile the flesh. (2.) The consent of the heart unto sin, the delectation that it finds in it, makes a man guilty; and the soul is always a rational agent, and this consent is given to these temptations in sleep. (3.) A man when awake thinking what he doth is sinful, though upon the matter it be not, yet it is sin to him; .e.g. a man taking his own goods, which yet he thinks are another man's, is guilty of theft before God: for whatsoever is not of faith is sin. So is it in this case, (4.) As these things arise from corrupt nature, so readily they follow on some such motions that people have been taken up with when awake, or from a loose, carnal, and secure frame. They are looked on as sinful by tender consciences. (5.) As men may do something pleasing to God in a dream, so may they do something to displease him, 2 Kings iii. 5. (6.) The law impressed upon the heart is designed to keep it even in sleep, Prov. vi. 22. 23. When thou sleepest, it shall keep thee. For the commandment is a lamp; and the law is light. But ye may say, What if a man has been watching against these things, praying against; them, &c. and yet in sleep falls into them? I answer, It is still sinful, in so far as the heart complies with the diabolic suggestion; and the truth is, by grace temptation is sometimes resisted in sleep, as well as when we are awake.
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The gate has now opened and we are driving towards the 2011 PCA GA. There are already now two overtures submitted for this year. Overture 1 is for dividing up Central Carolina Presbytery into three different presbyteries, it goes before MNA so I will make no comment here. Overture 2 is from South Florida Presbytery and deals with term limits of the Stated Clerk of GA and the Coordinators of the four major committees.
Overture 2 states,
The four program Committees shall nominate for their respective Committeesannuallya coordinator for election by the General Assembly for a term not to exceed five (5) years, and may nominate him for election by the General Assembly to a second term not to exceed five (5) years, after which he is not eligible to be nominated or elected as coordinator. The Administrative Committee shall nominateannuallya Stated Clerk for election by the General Assembly for a term not to exceed five (5) years, and may nominate him for election by the General Assembly to a second term not to exceed five (5) years, after which he is not eligible to be nominated or elected as Stated Clerk. If the nominee has not been examined by the Theological Examining Committee, such an examination must take place prior to the election when it is a first time employment. A new coordinator shall assume office at the end of the Assembly meeting, or at such time thereafter as designated by the General Assembly.
The four program Committees shall nominate for their respective Committees a coordinator for election by the General Assembly for a term not to exceed five (5) years, and may nominate him for election by the General Assembly to a second term not to exceed five (5) years, after which he is not eligible to be nominated or elected as coordinator. The Administrative Committee shall nominate a Stated Clerk for election by the General Assembly for a term not to exceed five (5) years, and may nominate him for election by the General Assembly to a second term not to exceed five (5) years, after which he is not eligible to be nominated or elected as Stated Clerk. If the nominee has not been examined by the Theological Examining Committee, such an examination must take place prior to the election when it is a first time employment. A new coordinator shall assume office at the end of the Assembly meeting, or at such time thereafter as designated by the General Assembly.
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Labels: General Assembly, Leadership, PCA
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